Embracing Recovery with Heart: Jenny Dinovi Reveals Love as the Ultimate Cure in addiction Recovery

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Hello and welcome to the VK podcast. I'm Ryan Alford, your cohost. My Kimisabe, my right-hand man, my good friend and cohost, Chris Hansen, in the VK lounge. Yeah, we're excited. Chris found Ginny, where everybody finds everyone these days, I think, the gram, the Instagrams. And now I'm entranced, and I think you will be too. Yoga and tantra teacher, transformational coach, and healer, Ginny D'Novi. What's up, Ginny?

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What's up? I'm good. How are you? We are good. Hot Miami on one end, South Carolina on the other. And we've got Sweden on board our global podcast. Oh yeah. All corners of the earth. I got to just ask some questions because we got to get Jenny talking because then you'll be mesmerized yourself. What's going on in Sweden, Jenny? Tell us something exciting.

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I wish something was going on here. It's winter. It's minus 10 Celsius. And yeah, it's more like everyone is going into their own cave. Hibernating. It's not much going on. Hibernation. Yeah. Oh, it was in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for eight months and that's in the dead of winter. It was.

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No one went out. It was like everybody just hibernated because it was just freezing and snowy and wind blowing off the river. Sounds like maybe that's what happens there.

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Yeah. And I like it for that reason. That's the only reason why I like it. It's that you have a reason to stay at home. Exactly. But you probably, you work from home, I imagine, doing a lot of online coaching. What we talked a little pre-episode, but let's set the table for our audience. What do you do, Ginny? How do you help people? What do I do? I had a life coach here was saying, yeah, you're an artist. That's what you are.

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But yeah, I make videos and I'm coaching from day to day. I'm coaching, yeah. What do we always think with coaching, like when we work with internet agency, we work with brands, we're trying to take them from a place to a place. There's a destination we're trying to get to. Where are most people that you're working with at and where are we trying to get them to?

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Most people are either like the ones that contact me, they are either in a deep spiritual awakening and they book me and they're like, what the fuck? What, what is going on? Or it's I'm stuck. Yeah. It's one of those two. Yeah. Stuck emotionally or like professionally or like relationships or the accommodation of all of it. I think it's just a big feeling of I'm stuck in life.

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Yeah.

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Chris, I know Jenny hit your radar. What kind of moved you about what Jenny does?

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fuck, listen to it and you'll, if you're not moved, then I would say you're probably soulless, not to be harsh, but no, that's what I love about the internet. And I feel like we've had a lot of guests on that literally have just popped up while I'm scrolling, I feel like. So props to the algorithm for shooting Jenny my way, but obviously her delivery and her voice is very magical.

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And I've told her this for me. I think for me, my dad being from Denmark and family over there in Denmark and Sweden, it's her accent to me is comforting. It's familiar to me. It reminds me of my grandmother, but outside of that, the content and what you're speaking on Jenny is just so next level. I don't even know the word to put it right. Spiritual conscious awakened, but there's just.

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a lot of depth with what you speak about. And I think you do it in a way that's very palatable for most people. Like it's not an overload. I think you're taking at least to me. It's very complex, yet simple ideas or concepts, and you put it in a way that is easier to digest. So where did you where did this come from, Jenny? Like, obviously, your approach and I do think said.

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your teacher or healer or someone that you work with called you an artist. There's an artistry, I think to your delivery that's unique to you. And the video, like the format of your videos has a ambiance. Thank you. But what, where did all this come from? Like the foundational practices and beliefs and maybe just for our audience that hasn't, they'll be searching you as we're talking, but, and, and getting to know you both where and how did you learn?

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your approaches and what are some of those foundational beliefs?

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Yeah, so it's actually a long story and I'm going to try to keep it short, but it came from me having this knowing since I was a little girl that I'm going to save my mom from alcoholism. And I just knew that is something that I'm going to do. I'm going to save her. And I have the key or I'm going to find the key. And when I finally did, she had been on.

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three liters of wine every day for 30 years. So it was really the doctors calling me from the hospital saying that she has four months left to live. So it was really like the last chance to do it. And I managed to get her sober and now she's been almost sober two years. And I also had the feeling as a little girl that once I've saved mom, then I'm gonna go on to saving others.

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So this has always been like, I've always known that I'm gonna do this. I just didn't know how or when. Yeah. How did you save her? I like, so what were the techniques to even start that process? Yeah, so she was laughing because she knows that I'm gonna be on this speaking about this. And she was like, yeah, just tell them everything. But yeah, so.

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How I saved her was that I got in contact with this shaman lady, shamanic lady, and she said to me, we were talking about this and tried everything. I've traveled the world. I've collected every knowledge. Like, I've tried it all. And then this shamanic woman, she looks at me and she said, have you tried love? And I was just like, wow, wait. So I've tried.

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everything, but I haven't tried to love the shit out of her. Because when it's your mom, or it's your brother, or someone close to you, you tend to use a lot of anger. And a lot of, you try to yell at them. And that is not working when it comes to alcohol, because that is putting more blame on them. And then he just wants to drink more. So when I heard that, I was like, oh shit.

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now I know what to do. So I turned up the volume on love, like all the way up. But I also used a lot of spiritual techniques, shamanic techniques. I was like, if it's four months left of her life, I'm going to do it all. And I don't care. I don't care about the rules. I'm just going to do what I believe is going to work. And that is also the moment when I realized that, oh, now I know why.

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I myself have been partying so much because I wouldn't have done that if it wasn't for my knowledge in drugs. So what she was laughing about, if I was going to say on this podcast was that I actually, the walk over from alcohol was that I put her on weed. So yeah, I smoked her down for two weeks. So to the point where she was like.

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didn't even know she was an alcoholic. But I want to bring a lot of awareness to that this is super dangerous to do when someone is that far into an addiction as 30 years. It's like anything at that point, we were talking life or death. So I knew that was very, yeah.

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irresponsible, but I also knew that this could be it. And it was so, yeah. That she came out of the fog. It is a great story, but I'm just the man. So the two weeks smoke out did she stayed? Yes, you still smoke? Now she smoked weed for those two weeks. And I knew that she was someone that she just hates weed.

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She's just like, that's dirty. Oh no. Sure. So I knew that even if she would get just a little bit attached to this, she's such a weed hater, so she's never going to continue and in Sweden to get weed at her age, like she will not get a hold of it. Right. It's that hard. So I knew that she's not going to, if anything, she's going to go back to alcohol

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easy for her to get, but she's not going to continue this. So you got her through the detox with the cannabis, which is pretty, I'm, I'm seeing more now there is facilities that are doing cannabis assisted detoxing, which I am a proponent of myself. I'm sober as well, three years. So I would say that there was a time I definitely used cannabis to help in the beginning. So it's powerful.

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Congratulations. Tell your mom. Congratulations. Yeah, that's. I came to Madden. I'm just still trying to wrap my head around three liters a day for 30 years. Holy shit. Yeah, that's a hardcore detox. Did you guys have any physicians helping or anything or any assisted? You just you. Nothing. Not even my siblings. I was standing here on my own and I was just like, no, I'm going to do it.

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If it's the last thing I'm doing, I'm going to do this. Yeah. You did bring up a lot of points when you're talking. All I could do is relate to my own experience with my family. And cause no one ever presented love as the solution to my addiction. I'll tell you that. But yeah, that made that was like, I know how it's so simple. It does be complicated so much. But then like, when you said that I'm like,

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First I'm like, oh, that's bulls. Actually, okay, I get it. Chris, I have a game for you since Jenny played with me. This game. How do you think Jenny is?

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That's a great question. That fair skin, the blonde hair, the whole sweetest thing, that really throws it off. Part of me wanted to go 24, but I knew you weren't 24. 30. There you go. Yeah, 31, yeah.

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You're too wise to be 24. Yeah, that's the thing. I have a few people like, why would I listen to you? You're like 22. Like, because I'm actually 31 and look how healthy and young I look. That's why you should listen to me. You should listen to me. Jokers. Clearly I'm doing something right. Yes. Do you, do you smoke, Jenny? Are we good? Sorry. What did you say? Do you smoke? No.

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So you got your mom off of alcohol with weed, but you don't smoke weed. But I did. Yeah. I did smoke. Yeah. In that time. Not during that time, but I've been smoking weed for years in my life. What made you quit?

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I've never been addicted to it, but I've been partying with it and I've been doing it for... I can have a bag of weed and then when it's gone and then I don't do it for six months and then I've done it again. So I've never felt this or I'm drawn to this and not with alcohol either, not with any drug, I would say. For me, it's been more work-a-lism and...

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Yeah, more. That's why I became a tantra teacher because I didn't have any respect for touching myself and addictions like that. The addictions, no one's what to talk about. Work addiction. Totally. That's good on that road. Yeah, that's a good one. What's- We want to talk about it here on the Vacate Podcast. We don't want to ignore it. Yeah, exactly.

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That way, I just want to know.

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There's like this comfortability with you about any of these topics, like whatever. Like I could tell it was sensitive with your mother, which it would be with me as well. But in general, like in your content and even now, what makes you so comfortable in your skin? Or seem to be? That is actually, I'm always telling everyone, that's my biggest key. I have this big picture.

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up on the wall of me as a third year old, I'm always putting my inner child in front of me in whatever I'm doing. If I'm on this podcast or if I'm recording a video, it's all her in front. And she's having all of the confidence in the world. It's not me. It's not you. So you separate yourself almost like a third person.

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Yeah, because the woman I am today, if I would record videos or talk from her, she is having a lot of limiting beliefs because of this and society. And that little person, if you tap into that little boy inside of you, he deserves the world and he deserves to shine his brightest light. So it's a powerful force to work with. Where did understanding that come from? Like where did...

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Like, how did you re-taught that? And then once you were taught it, you were able to bring it out in yourself? Or is it nature or nurture? It's more yoga teaching. Yeah, I think every yoga teacher training is teaching how to connect with your inner child. So I've been working on that for five years now after my yoga teacher training.

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Is that what you help other people with as well? Yeah, it's a lot of that actually, because many of my clients are jumping on a call with me because they are just like, I want to do what you are doing. How do I get the confidence? How can I do that? Is it this notion that as a child, our inhibitions are non-existent and it's like, there's like this magicalness to the world.

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The world is our ocean, like truly, and then we get old and we get beaten down by judgment and expectations and or misperceptions of the world. Is it as simple as that? Is that like that childlike experience?

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It's jumping up and down for Joy agreeing with her. No, I totally agree with it. I had this conversation in the last few days with somebody that so many of us, I feel, are operating out of a hurt, or like our hurt in our child. We take on these personas and characters based on experiences or hurts we've had to try to protect ourselves, but really I think it's pushing away.

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truth from us, like our own truth and our own destiny. And these are concepts literally two or three years ago that I like couldn't wrap my head around. And now I just feel now as time goes on, even when I see people maybe doing things I don't agree with, I just see them like, they're just a hurt kid. Like they're just trying to still protect that little kid in them.

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Yeah, I'm definitely trying to be more like, I thought about your boys, honestly, just the confidence of a young 10 year old boy that gives you shits about anything and just they have no regard for their health. No preconceived notions. They're just they like just go 100% all in. And that's what I thought about when she was saying that is just don't give a shit what anyone thinks you just go in and you're like, all right, let's go do it. And you have nothing but

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You think like positive about the outcomes always in my opinion, like the world is your oyster. Like you said, there's nothing but gain gains to come from life. You don't know hardship and pain enough at that point. I feel like, Oh yeah. I have four boys that are all young and they, it's funny. Like they get so into everything they're doing. Every

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other thing in the world shuts off. If they're playing the game, if they're devising a plan, it is single track. As adults, we have a hard time focusing on just one thing. Like I'm terrible at it, which is why I'm good at it. If I do like that's what podcasting, I have these headphones on. I have no phone. I have no distraction. So I'm a hundred percent in this. But, but any other time we have so many other distractions, things going on, but

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but the kids for good, bad, or indifferent, they are into whatever it is. No other thought in the world. Sometimes it's dangerous because they're unintentionally crossing boundaries that are either real or created by my wife. But it's true though, there is like this all in. You know what example I'm thinking of?

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Didn't your boys do, weren't they selling lemonade or something recently a couple months ago? So they basically had this idea, let's go start a business and make money. And they went and did it. How many adults do we know that wanna do something or start a business and find every reason not to? But a 10 year old boy's like, fuck it, get a table, get a sign, let's make some lemonade, we're doing it. They're not worried about failing or we don't have the right lemons.

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What if we don't have the right? It's no, they just do it. Yeah. So pursuing their dreams and their goals at that time, just fearlessly and confidently.

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Jenny, question for you. What's the balance of, in question you're 100% right, and that was it. And the balance of being childlike and removing inhibition to a degree and, but the maturity and wisdom of an adult. And like not to get in your way, but I do feel like we have a.

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On one hand, like I'm sitting here going, this makes a ton of sense, and I agree with all this, and this is what we should do. And then on the other, I'm like, there's a lot of fucking people that need to grow up online. They're immature, they don't have, and not because I'm judging them because they don't have wealth or something like that, but more like.

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They're lacking some sort of emotional maturity on some like, I'm like balancing those two things. How do you what's what's the balance? Yeah, I get what you mean. But I do believe that those people are tapped into their immature grown up. They are not tapped into their inner child. Let's go down that road. What's the difference?

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I know, I think I know, but I want to spell it out for the audience.

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But it all depends on what you want to do too, or why you're here. If you're here to find joy, because that's what I'm doing. I just want to live a life of joy and happiness and success is how much I did smile today. So if that is what you want to, then tap into that little child, because that is your key. Like...

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Chris, I see a lot of inner child in him. It's like looking at your life. I look at it and I see this. It's like your inner child or that little boy or I think many others little boy inside is looking at you like, wow, I also wanna do this. Because you're living in that joy. Yeah. And I'm just a grumpy adult.

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I would say I think you're living in your inner child joy too for the most part. Is that what you were implying Jenny?

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Ryan, maybe you just need some more coaching. Yes. I think you just got to listen to Jenny more often. I know I've already told her, I got a question, hire her for bedtime stories if nothing else. Yeah. Jenny, you should at least be making money off like doing the audio book recordings or something like that. Love to use you for our next vacay ad for the voiceover. That's for sure. Yes. Cause we've spent hours listening to people's voices. What's the good vibe? And I'm like,

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Now, I just saw this. I'm like, she'd be a great ad voice for us. She should be the voice of the intro for a vacay podcast. I agree. I have a question. So there's a quote here. I don't know if it's from you or what, but the universe doesn't know if you're praying or complaining. Can you dive into that and unpack that?

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I didn't know it myself. Is that what comes out of positivity and negativity? Or how did you make that one of your pillars? I believe that we are manifesting all the time. So people who are saying like, no, I'm not going to manifest for a while now. It's like, no, you can't say that because you are manifesting all the time. Every word that you pick to use and send out to the universe,

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is a spell. It's all a matter if you are on alignment or not. And once you get to alignment, then everything that you ever said is going to pop. And that is why people say, careful what you wish for, because you just might get it. That is why people who walk around, I remember I lived with Irumi, she was always saying, now I'm getting sick again, now I'm getting sick. And she was always sick, always.

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So we are manifesting with every word. Now I can relate to that. I don't deal with negative people very well. And I'll tell you what, they manifest the hell out of some negative shit happening to them. It's like, I'm like, dude, keep that voodoo black magic shit away from me. You're just bringing me down with your vibes. And I know why you

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your tart your toe got run over by the car today like you manifested that to happen because if you want to play the victim or be the victim or be negative like it does just it just flies all over you and it's so true and they're and i think when we are that way we're unaware of it i don't we can all be that way on some level because we're human but the people that live there constantly

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It's crazy how they do bring it on themselves. And then sometimes I just think they just think it, but no, they actually really bring it on themselves. Yeah. Isn't that funny? The people, go ahead, Jenny. I was coaching a woman the other week and she said, I just want my followers to come into my account and I have this, I feel like I have this wall in between me and my followers.

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And I was like, yeah, you manifested to have this wall by keep on saying that you have a wall between you and your followers. Of course, that is what's also going to happen. It's all energy.

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Absolutely. I know I've had to watch. I've become a lot more aware of what I say out loud now, even not even say out loud, even what I'm saying to myself in my mind, trying to stay in that positive. Grateful mindset. I feel so important. How does Jenny, what's the process for how you I know you sounds like you have a lot of different personalities.

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that come to you or different people for different needs, but maybe give some of the nuts and bolts, the specifics around how you help people and what that process looks like. Yeah, so what I do is, I think it's very...

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unique because I'm coaching everyone one hour for free. So I have this link on my Instagram and you can book me one hour and I'll give everyone my favorite practice in personal development in that. And it's a huge practice that I'm giving away. And basically this practice is so good that they won't even need me anymore. Some of them don't because they're taking off like that in transformation.

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So I'm doing that because I want to start a mini awakening and because I fucking love to give. Yeah. So it starts with you. Since everyone is able to book me because many coaches are having this, you have to fill in this form and you need to be like this and you need to suit my coaching. Like, no, I want to coach everyone. I can't even imagine who I could not help. So.

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By doing this, it's been a ride. Like, one hour I'm on Hawaii, then I'm on Cyprus, then I'm in Finland, then I'm in Canada. And I had this, I think it was last week when I was coaching a billionaire first, one hour. And he was very depressed. Like he wanted to find the light in life again, basically.

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And then the next coaching hour after that was a man six miles away in California, who just became homeless and just had to, he was in the moment that he was like, okay, this is the day when I'm, I'm basically homeless. I'm living in my car and I don't have a family and I only have this coaching hour, so it's really like I'm on a ride when talking to people.

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That's crazy. That all ends at the speck. How do you, you seem so clearly entwined on this emotional level. I would think it would be somewhat difficult for you to talk the emotional impact of like 10 of those discussions in a day or five of them. How do you balance that? Not.

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Because you obviously have a very caring soul. I can sense that. So I would just feel like you'd be emotionally drained. Yeah, I think this protect your peace and negative people are affecting me and they're draining me. That's also, you're manifesting them to drain you. So what I'm always thinking is that

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When I walk around wherever I am, I imagine that I have this ball around me in gloss and negativity and negative people, they're bouncing. They can't get in. And I think that also the more that you rise your own energy and when you get to a fuck with able frequency, I can see myself. I've had a few people who I know are at like...

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in an energy that you don't want to be around, but they can't stand me now. It's like they fly away if they get close. So, yeah, I'm not worried because I have this around me. But that is also a belief.

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But to answer your question, I think it's also that I'm almost doubling up on sleep. And I think that is something that the world is not doing right now. I think that we could be 10 steps ahead of everyone else if we would just sleep now. Because after COVID, now everyone is... After COVID, and now you can go, now you can do everything again,

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crazy horses seeing grass for the first time at summer. It's just like running with no sleep up at 5 a.m. Run, do this. So if you double up on sleep now, you're gonna be ahead of everyone else. How many hours of sleep are we talking about for Jenny? 10. Oh, okay. Okay. We did have a show, Chris, I'm remembering back. Yes.

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That's in the danger zone. That's in the danger zone. Supposedly in hours. Supposedly what your moment over could be. Yeah, you your mortality rate goes up like 20 percent or something. If you get 10 hours. Allegedly. Yeah, like it's different from men and women to women are supposed to get nine to 10 hours of sleep every night. But men are OK. And.

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can still be happy on six, seven and eight. But it's a huge difference if you're a woman or a man. That makes sense. I find that to be true. Yeah, for sure. Especially my wife. My sister's world is sleepy girls. My sweet spot's probably seven. I don't, if I get eight I feel like I'm groggy. If I get six I feel like I'm a little grouchy.

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I have to agree though. I do think after COVID the world just people went nutso. And I mean, we talk about sleep. I would say literally probably once a month, someone is talking about the importance of sleep. And I think as a whole, that's why we have the sleep coming part of it. Yes, we do.

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We'll be sending. So what about I'm curious, Jenny, what's like your average day? Like what's a day in the life of Jenny? Like not only work wise, but what do you do for you? How do you keep yourself centered and aligned and in position to give back? Actually, I'm still trying to figure it out because everyone is asking me, how do you do it? And I'm just like, yeah, I quit my full time job in.

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September, I don't even know what I'm doing. Don't ask me. Which is really the best advice you can give. It's like, that's inner child, like, fuck it. Go for it, figure it out. Yeah, so I'm still trying to figure it out. But my first thought when I was like, okay, I am my own boss now, what do I want with this? If I could wish for any type of living, how is it that I want to live?

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And my first answer was that I don't want to have an alarm. That's a great one. Yeah. So that I don't have and yeah, I'm trying really to live the happy life of my inner child, like how does she want to live? And she wants to live in flow. I don't.

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at all structure or to force yourself to do meditation at 5pm every day. You need to be on that. Ah, what the fuck, bro. If I feel like doing meditation in the morning one day and in the evening, what, like I'm always trying to dance my way through every day. And I have this wish list of things that I would like to have done in a day, but there's no time on them, which makes me.

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more happy because that makes me more free to do what I feel like doing when I feel like doing it. Because if I do my power yoga and my dance yoga when I actually feel like it's dancing now, it's so much more powerful than if I have 9 a.m. You need to be on the mat. Tanner Iskra I can relate to that. I'm definitely more of a, these are the five things I'm going to get done.

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And I, nine out of 10 times, I get them done. But the gym might be 6.30 AM and it might be 1 PM. And I don't ever really know. I have a good idea, maybe based on things that are on my calendar. And then there's other things, personal or professional. I'm a big freedom person now, but you have to earn your way to get there to a degree. A lot of people.

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have all that freedom and you can if you set yourself up and work for it, you're willing to do it and have a skill that can provide for yourself to have that kind of freedom. But you never know. 100%. When I was working in corporate medical sales, I don't think that would have been cool if I was like, Hey guys, I'm just going to hit the gym. I think today around one, I'm feeling like it's a good time. Yeah. Then I'd be like, dude, you get your ass back out on the road. Yeah.

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But I think that's...

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I think that's powerful because I do think there's an abundance of coaches, people on the internet with the whole hustle culture and everything overly structured. And I do think discipline is important. That kind of what you guys said, if I accomplish what I need to accomplish in a day, regardless of what time those things are done at, it's still a win. What are you doing for this when you said you quit your full time job? What was your profession or career?

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I was actually in sales business with ads manager for Facebook and Instagram. Wow. Interesting. There you go. If you ever want to get back in that, you know, you just give me a call. It's your

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Asked us less like because you have none of us have it all figured out. We you can have some myotis 21 31 51 101 one day these longevity doctors start keeping us alive longer But like Where do you want? Your life your career your all of these things. Where do you see the path going?

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Do you have a vision for that? Yeah, I see that I want to make a big retreat because I have a big retreat idea. And yeah, then I just want to keep doing what I'm doing. I think a lot of people who are asking me like making videos and questions about that and wants to do the same and don't feel it when they record, I'm trying to always explain like.

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When I'm making videos, it's something happening inside of me. I feel like I'm in the middle of what I'm supposed to do. So I actually found that when I was in TV. And I was in this interview room. They interview you and they film you. And I was just like, no, this is it. This is it. This is what I'm supposed to do. But I don't know how. So I got out of there. And then I started my TikTok.

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So yeah, that was how I found it. And I want to keep doing this too, but I would like to more and more, the dream is to get away from the computer and the phone and yeah, to have someone else doing that so that I can be in the actual life. The, oh, and was it IRLs my kids like to tell me?

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In real life? It's wild. It's even like an abbreviation that's normal now. IRL. You don't have to be there. You're paying bills. How do you, once you get past like the one hour free, where do you typically take it from there with clients that need more awakening than the one hour?

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Yeah, so that practice that I'm giving away that is the most powerful practice that I've ever done in personal development. So that sends them off on a journey and I'm going to send it to you too. Oh, yes, I can't wait. You're going to get on that journey too. But then I usually say that wait two weeks so that you can feel the difference and the magic of the journey that just begun.

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And if you still feel called to, because to me it's very important that they feel connected to me and that we, not that I need to have the connection, but they need to feel like I want her to walk me. Because if they don't feel like that, then a transformational coaching is not gonna do what it could be doing to someone who feels like, nah, I feel super connected to Jenny. Because those, I see those going like this.

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So yeah, I put them off on this journey for two weeks and then they come back to get more. How often do you work with people that come back? Is it like a once a week thing or is it, is the frequency dependent on the person and the need? Usually it's actually once a week. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's fascinating how stuff like this, like right now we're recording, obviously it's recorded, not live, but how the internet and video and technology has enabled this, not only the fact that we're all came together, but then, but your ability to coach anyone, anywhere, anytime. Yeah, I'm really happy that I switched from speaking Swedish. That was only like April this year.

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I was like, no, I need to turn around. And yeah, the difference now speaking to people all around the world, it's so much fun. Did it just explode? Yeah, I'm glad you started speaking English too. That way I could understand you. What did you say? Yeah, did you notice when you switched to English, did your growth pick up quite a bit on the platforms?

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Yeah, but not straight away. And I think that is what scares most people is that I think I lost. I had 11,000 when I switched. And I think it went down like 3000 first, because those are Swedish people who only wanted a Swedish Jenny. And you need to understand that and you need to have a lot of patience in that because it feels like, oh no, what did I do and what's wrong with my English? And all of that.

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So yeah, it took five months before it started to take off and for the algorithm also to show my videos outside of Sweden took a long time. I, this is definitely the most chill episode we've ever had. And so I'm like, fuck, I'm almost been in a trance. I'm using not a loss for words, but working everybody, keep up with everything you're doing, Jenny.

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I'm using my psychic powers too. It could be that. That's mostly what it is. Hey, whatever it is, it's working. Yeah. What are the handles on social media? What did you say? Like where can everybody keep up with you on socials? Like your usernames and all that. It's jenni.dinov on Instagram and now TikTok too. That's D-I-N-O-V-I. We'll have that in the show notes and links too.

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all of her content and her bedtime stories. That's gotta, that should totally be on your roadmap for monetization. Yeah, it's kind of- I want to say I've definitely fell asleep listening to like your reels, like scrolling. I think I've definitely passed out. Just like good, it's getting in my subconscious. It's good messaging. It's probably a good thing because it's a lot of...

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fast energy out there and I think more calm energy is needed out there. Yeah, there's definitely an abundance of the other and I don't know, but really appreciate you coming on Vinny and we'd love, yeah, we appreciate it. I know it's a little later there and it's been interesting and I think...

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There's something to be said for calm discussion. Thank you. I'm looking forward to the two week program. Yes. Going on a journey now. Yes. Christie needs a lot more help than just one, one hour or two weeks. You definitely put my coaching on the corporate card. The corporate training. I'm kidding. We probably all need help.

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I probably need more calming down the, okay. So. You got a lot of chaos going on. Yes. Managing a lot of people. Yes, yes. But we really appreciate it, Jenny. Hey guys, we'll have all of the links in the show notes. You can find us at vacaypodcast.com. You can find Chris and I on the gram, on TikTok, everything. Wherever you see that blue check mark, it's us. We'll see you next time.

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on the VK Podcast.